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Kamala Harris makes a moral appeal to women on the Brené Brown podcast
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Kamala Harris makes a moral appeal to women on the Brené Brown podcast

Vice-President Kamala Harris sought to appeal to female voters during an appearance on popular academic Brené Brown It unlocks us podcast.

The podcast was taped on Friday, the same day Harris held a campaign rally in Houston in support of abortion rights. At the rally, pop superstar Beyoncé, her mother, Tina Knowles, and her former bandmate, Kelly Rowland, spoke in support of the Democratic ticket.

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Harris spoke about a range of issues on Brown’s podcast, including her family background as the eldest daughter of divorced parents, her long-term friendships and family, abortion rights, religion and her moral argument against the former president. Donald Trump.

“This is not 2016 or 2020. He is also increasingly unstable and unhinged,” Harris said of Trump.

“Imagine the Oval Office in your head,” Harris continued. “Imagine that on January 20, 2025, if Donald Trump is sitting there, he’s going to be on the enemy list. As for what I plan to do, which is sit there thinking about the American people working on my to-do list. It’s a big difference.”

The vice president also told Brown that there was a “very real fear” that Trump could surround himself with loyalists if re-elected president, and pointed to his former chief of staff, John Kelly, warning that Trump met with the definition of a fascist.

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“Look, the people who know Donald Trump best, who have worked with him, members of his political party who have worked with him in the Oval Office, in the Situation Room, who have been his chief of staff, most recently, the one who spoke. , a four-star Marine general,” Harris continued. “His national security adviser, two secretaries of defense and his former vice president have all said he is unfit to serve as president and dangerous.”

Harris’ appearance with Brown also comes after Trump appeared on popular host Joe Rogan’s podcast, which has a largely male audience. After much criticism for hiding from the press and public in the early days of her campaign this summer, Harris has stepped up her media strategy with meetings with a range of journalists and podcasters and a CNN event at the town hall.

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The election is shaping up to be a referendum on gendered voting habits as Harris and her allies work to increase voter turnout among women, pointing to the Supreme Court flip. Roe v. Wadewhile Trump’s campaign leans heavily in themes of masculinity to gain support among male voters.

“We have to be vigilant and we have to remember that we can never take our rights for granted,” Harris said after Brown discussed pregnant women who skipped her San Antonio speech to educators out of fear of the laws of the city regarding abortion.

“Going back to your point about talking to people about whether they should get very active around this election and knock on doors and tell people what they care about and why they should vote: this it’s the day,” Harris continued. “The idea that in the United States of America, in this year of our Lord 2024, that women do not have the right to make decisions about their own bodies. I mean, what could be more fundamental?”

The nearly hour-long podcast also focused on lighter topics, including Harris’ passion for Venn diagrams, her collaborative leadership style, her love of Sunday family gatherings and her deliberate choice to fight to win the elections.

“My lived experience is knowing that the vast majority of us have more in common than what separates us,” Harris explained before sharing a laugh with Brown. “Gen Z and others… have this whole meme about me and, dare I say it, my obsession with Venn diagrams. I love Venn diagrams.”

As Harris reflected on the Democratic National Convention this summer, she argued that her ideology helped her get into the ring for the presidency.

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“If you know what it stands for, then you know what to fight for, it’s not fighting for the sake of fighting,” Harris said.

“I’m all for women’s freedom to make decisions about their own bodies,” she continued. “I’m all for the fact that we should treat each other with dignity and respect. I support the proposition that we need to lift up working people and give them access to opportunities. These are the kinds of things I stand for. So I fight for them.”