Former Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Model Who Accused Former President Donald Trump of Groping Her Face Jeffrey Epstein in the early 1990s provides more details about what she claims she observed about Epstein’s relationship with the current presidential candidate and what she says Epstein told her.

“I would say she talked about just seeing Donald or just doing something, I mean every time we talked,” Stacey Williams, who worked as a professional model in the 1990s, told ABC News in an interview.

Williams went public this week with an allegation that Trump groped her in front of Epstein after she said Epstein, who would later be known as a serial sex offender, brought her to Trump Tower earlier in the year 1990.

“I felt so humiliated”

In her interview with ABC News, Williams said that during her months-long relationship with Epstein, whom she said she met in 1992, Trump was among three people Epstein spoke to her most, one of the other two being Ghislaine Maxwell. , Epstein’s longtime associate, who has since been sentenced to 20 years in prison for recruiting and grooming underage girls whom Epstein sexually abused.

The third person, Williams said, was Leslie Wexner, the billionaire retail magnate who once hired Epstein to manage his fortune.

“The people he talked about the most were his boss, or whatever that person was, Les Wexner, hard to understand that role. And then Ghislaine, again, a weird, slightly ambiguous relationship. And then Donald Trump.” Williams told ABC News. “These are the people he talked about the most.”

The details come after Williams publicly discussed the alleged incident in detail for the first time during a public Zoom “Survivors for Kamala” call last Monday night in support of Vice President Kamala Harris. The group is not officially affiliated with Harris’ presidential campaign.

In a statement to ABC News, Trump campaign spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt denied Williams’ allegations, saying in part: “These allegations, made by a former activist for Barack Obama and announced on a campaign call by Harris two weeks before the election, are unequivocally false. “

Asked about the claim that Epstein spoke frequently about Trump, a Trump campaign spokesman said: “It is widely known that President Trump banned Jeffrey Epstein from his Mar-a-Lago club when revelations about his sex-trafficking become public”.

On the Zoom call, of which ABC News obtained video, Williams, who first began speaking publicly about the alleged incident with Trump and Epstein in Facebook posts dating back to 2020, said she felt the alleged groping incident had was a “twisted game”. between Trump and Epstein.

“I felt so humiliated and so sick to my stomach and I was so angry and as I absorbed what happened a few minutes later I felt like it was some sort of bet or foul play between the two of them Williams said. “I was rolled in there like a piece of meat for some sort of challenge or twisted game and I felt awful.”

“I thought it was time to share this and I’m ready to win this election,” Williams, a longtime Democrat who has been active in politics, said on the Zoom call. “The thought of that monster coming back to the White House is my worst nightmare.”

“It was orchestrated”

Williams told ABC News that the alleged encounter, when she was 24, lasted no more than ten minutes. “I was in shock and I was frozen,” Williams said.

“He reached out and pulled me towards him and his hands on the side of my body the whole time,” Williams claimed in the interview. “His hands would touch the sides of my breasts, not the front, but the sides of my breasts, my waist, then slide down to my bottom and keep running up and down my body as the two of them carried. in a conversation.”

Speaking to ABC News, Williams explained that shortly after the alleged incident, she began to suspect that the meeting with Trump and Epstein was “orchestrated,” but went into denial because of the shame it caused her.

“There’s no doubt in my mind now that it was orchestrated,” Williams said.

Shortly after the alleged incident, Williams said Trump sent her a handwritten postcard from his Mar-a-Lago estate that read: “Stacey — Your home away from home. Love Donald”. A photo of the postcard was shared with ABC News.

Two friends confirmed to ABC News in interviews that Williams told them years ago about the alleged incident with the former president. Longtime friend Allison Gutwillinger told ABC News in an interview that in 2015 Williams invited her to her home to tell her about the alleged incident after Trump announced his candidacy.

“I came to her house. There was a postcard on the kitchen counter with what looked like Mar-a-Lago on the cover. I turned it over and there was a handwritten note signed ‘Love Donald,'” Gutwillinger said. . “Then he told me he groped her in Trump Tower.”

“Not a fan of his”

Trump eventually distanced himself from Epstein, who in 2019 committed suicide in prison while awaiting federal trial. allegations of sex trafficking. Authorities say that in the early 2000s, Epstein sexually exploited and abused dozens of underage girls at his homes in New York and Florida, among other locations.

In 2002, Trump told New York magazine, “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. A great guy.”

“He’s a lot of fun to be with. They even say he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and a lot of them are younger,” Trump said at the time.

Epstein was questioned about his relationship with Trump during a March 2010 deposition in a civil lawsuit against Epstein brought by some of Epstein’s victims.

Epstein replied, “Yes, sir,” when asked if he socialized with Trump. When asked if he had “ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of women under 18,” Epstein replied, “While I would like to answer that question, at least today I’m going to have to say my fifth, sixth. and the 14th amendment correct sir.”

Until Epstein was indicted in 2019, then-President Trump told reporters at the White House that he was “not a fan of his, I can tell you that” and that he hadn’t “spoken to him in 15 years.”

A year later, Trump wished Ghislaine Maxwell “well” after being asked by a reporter whether the longtime Epstein associate should reveal the names of powerful people who were associated with the serial sex offender.

“I don’t know,” Trump said. “I haven’t followed him too much. I wish him well, honestly.”

In 2021, Maxwell was convicted on five out of six searches related to the abuse and trafficking of minor girls.

During Maxwell’s trial, flight logs released as evidence showed that Trump was listed as a passenger on Epstein’s private jets at least seven times: four times in 1993, once in 1994 and 1995, and a previously known time , 1997.

At least 18 women have accused Trump of various degrees of misconduct, including allegations of sexual harassment or assault. During Trump’s first run for the White House, a 2005 video surfaced of him discussing groping women, in which Trump can be heard telling former “Access Hollywood” host Billy Bush, “When you’re a star, they let you to do this”.

“I’m automatically attracted to beautiful women, I just start kissing them, it’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star they let you do that. You can do anything.” Trump saidincluding “catch them by the p—-“.

Trump apologized when the comments were made public, saying in a video: “Anyone who knows me knows that these words do not reflect who I am,” adding: “I said it, I was wrong and I I apologize”.

Trump has long vehemently denied all the women’s allegations. In some cases, he and members of his team have expressly denied individual allegations, but have repeatedly issued blanket denials against all allegations, calling the women liars.